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Half The Distance to The Goal
« on: December 16, 2007, 02:55:46 PM »

Never really liked this rule, and while I see the theory behind it, a penalty is a penalty to me regardless of the field position.   

Thoughts?
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2007, 03:02:28 PM »

Take 'em back, way back,  waaaaayyyy back!

Don't let the bastages off the hook.   
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2007, 03:10:09 PM »

so what would you do in it's place?

penalty moves the ball into the end zone?
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2007, 03:15:13 PM »

so what would you do in it's place?

penalty moves the ball into the end zone?


Move the ball to the 1.
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2007, 03:15:59 PM »

so what would you do in it's place?

penalty moves the ball into the end zone?


Move the ball to the 1.

ok.  and then when there's another penalty?
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2007, 03:18:13 PM »

so what would you do in it's place?

penalty moves the ball into the end zone?


Move the ball to the 1.

ok.  and then when there's another penalty?
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It would be no different then it is now when the ball is on the 1/4 yard line, they move the ball to the 1/8 yard line...does it really make a difference? 
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2007, 03:26:45 PM »

so what would you do in it's place?

penalty moves the ball into the end zone?


Move the ball to the 1.



ok.  and then when there's another penalty?
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It would be no different then it is now when the ball is on the 1/4 yard line, they move the ball to the 1/8 yard line...does it really make a difference? 


i understand and agree.  what I am questioning is how does one pick an arbitrary point at which to start enforcing a difference in penalty distance.   just picking the 1 yard line is certainly a choice.   but why is it that much better than the 2, 3 , or even 5 ?
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2007, 03:33:13 PM »

so what would you do in it's place?

penalty moves the ball into the end zone?


Move the ball to the 1.



ok.  and then when there's another penalty?
 Devil

It would be no different then it is now when the ball is on the 1/4 yard line, they move the ball to the 1/8 yard line...does it really make a difference? 


i understand and agree.  what I am questioning is how does one pick an arbitrary point at which to start enforcing a difference in penalty distance.   just picking the 1 yard line is certainly a choice.   but why is it that much better than the 2, 3 , or even 5 ?
I don't know, do you have to differentiate them?  A ten yard penalty on the eleven should put the ball on the 1, the same as a ten yard penalty on 5 should put the ball on the 1.  If the ball is already on the 1, then move to the 1/2 yard line and so forth.
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2007, 03:47:59 PM »

I don't know, do you have to differentiate them?  A ten yard penalty on the eleven should put the ball on the 1, the same as a ten yard penalty on 5 should put the ball on the 1.  If the ball is already on the 1, then move to the 1/2 yard line and so forth.
I think the reasoning might be that backing a team all the way to the one means they're not only at risk of giving up a safety, but that the offense can't really do anything from that field position.  So a single penalty in the wrong place easily can cost them 7 points.

Yeah, I think they should be penalized and sometimes it hurts, but I don't like the thought that a penalty at the wrong field position can so readily change the outcome of a game.
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2007, 04:23:38 PM »

I would rather they address the pass interference penalty. Some BS "touch" can be a huge (30, 40 yards) gain for the offense.

I'd like to see this changed to mirror the face mask call. Let's say, 10-15 yards and 1st down for a bump and full yardage for tackling a guy. Still a judgment call I know.

I just think that personal fouls are 15 yards and they have a potential, at times, to end careers so I'm not sure pass interference should be more severe.
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2007, 04:27:20 PM »

Fix the TV timeout rule.  Games at 11:00, 1:00, 4:00 and 7:00.
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2007, 07:13:46 PM »

Fix the TV timeout rule.  Games at 11:00, 1:00, 4:00 and 7:00.

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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2007, 08:00:25 PM »

I would rather they address the pass interference penalty. Some BS "touch" can be a huge (30, 40 yards) gain for the offense.

I'd like to see this changed to mirror the face mask call. Let's say, 10-15 yards and 1st down for a bump and full yardage for tackling a guy.
So then what's to deter the defensive back from just shoving the receiver over on a long pass play?  Say the ball is on the 45-yard line, for instance, and they throw the long pass attempting to get all the way to the goal.  Even if the defender put the receiver in a straitjacket, you think a 15-yard penalty would suffice?  If it would save a touchdown and the other team only moves to the 30-yard line, why WOULDN'T the defensive back tie the receiver up?  It's almost like you're providing the defensive player an INCENTIVE to break the rule.   
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2007, 08:16:14 PM »

I would rather they address the pass interference penalty. Some BS "touch" can be a huge (30, 40 yards) gain for the offense.

I'd like to see this changed to mirror the face mask call. Let's say, 10-15 yards and 1st down for a bump and full yardage for tackling a guy.
So then what's to deter the defensive back from just shoving the receiver over on a long pass play?  Say the ball is on the 45-yard line, for instance, and they throw the long pass attempting to get all the way to the goal.  Even if the defender put the receiver in a straitjacket, you think a 15-yard penalty would suffice?  If it would save a touchdown and the other team only moves to the 30-yard line, why WOULDN'T the defensive back tie the receiver up?  It's almost like you're providing the defensive player an INCENTIVE to break the rule.   

Nothing stops the DB from shoving the receiver. But if you re-read my post I said make it a judgment call. If the push is judged intentional the penalty is the same as always.

My only point is that as the rule is today, a little bump is too severely penalized. Just my humble opinion.
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Re: Half The Distance to The Goal
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2007, 06:08:44 AM »

The last time I expressed an opinion on the inequity of a rule, I was shunned and blacklisted.  I won't risk it here.
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