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Electability of candidates [Politics/Religion]

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Question: Which of these characteristics would render a candidate least likely to be elected?
Being a woman - 1 (4.8%)
Being a racial minority - 1 (4.8%)
Being openly gay - 7 (33.3%)
Being physically unattractive - 1 (4.8%)
Being atheist - 11 (52.4%)
Total Voters: 14

 
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Electability of candidates [Politics/Religion]
« on: April 15, 2008, 03:49:26 PM »

This isn't a question of how you'd judge the candidates based on these characteristics. It's a question of how you think American voters in general would judge the candidates.
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Re: Electability of candidates [Politics/Religion]
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 03:55:51 PM »

I believe this year we will see either a black or female President.

When studies have shown that physical attractiveness does deter a candidates popularity, history has given us a few Royal Ugly Dudes, and still could.

I believe 2 of the list are (at least in Twenty O Eight) enough of a trait to draw enough of the American population against giving you a legitimate shot.

Gay, and anything other than being a Christian.*


*For purposes of this discussion, I am lumping any group that recognizes God*. 
* You know what the *fudge* I mean.
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2008, 03:57:50 PM »

I think american voters, like myself, are extremely shallow and so selected "being physically unattractive"

They'd also more likely vote for an physically unattractive gay negro woman than they would vote for an atheist.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2008, 04:07:09 PM »

In 2008, you would have zero chance to be elected as an atheist. Next would be openly gay.

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Re: Electability of candidates [Politics/Religion]
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2008, 04:45:00 PM »

As an outsider looking in, I'd suggest that the very fabric of the US of A is going to be tested at this election. 

It will certainly force many people to reconsider their own values in deciding who they wish to lead your country.

If either Hillary or Obama succeed the incumbant, then there is the potential for the polarisation of many segments of the country.

However, it also represents an opportunity to mark a significant historical event, where for the most part those groups that have for the most part been underepresented and/or marginalised for most of the last 2 centuries.

It will also represent a significant shift in cultural attitues in a country that in many ways is very conservative.

I have a suspiscion that four score and however many years ago, this is perhaps what the forefathers had in mind.

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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 06:35:04 PM »

1.  Atheist

2.  Gay

3.  Woman

4.  Racial minority

5.  Ugly bugger

At the last minute a majority of Americans will balk at a woman CiC.  I think if Clinton wins the nomination McCain will take her.  Given the events of the past eight years it's essentially unthinkable the elephants could take the White House but...  Don't Know

I won't vote for her 'cuz she's an *bunghole*.
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 06:38:07 PM »


If either Hillary or Obama succeed the incumbant, then there is the potential for the polarisation of many segments of the country.



 

we're so past being ready to dump Bush, we're willing to take that chance
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 06:43:39 PM »

In 2008, you would have zero chance to be elected as an atheist. Next would be openly gay.


I agree.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 07:21:26 PM »

I don't know how to answer this. Me being a Register Repup but really have no idea what I am. I can say I don't like Clinton but not because she is a woman. I like Obama but not because he is a minority. I like McCain but not because he is a Republican. I don't know how I would vote but of all those listed above none of them mean anything to me.

The only thing is, and Darla I apologize now, I am not ready for a woman president. Not because I don't think a woman can do it. I just don't think this woman can do it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 07:31:03 PM »

Maybe if Oprah ran for President you could kill 3 birds with one stone??

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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2008, 07:39:40 PM »

I think Clinton is capable and would probably do a fine job. But... 50% of the nation already hates her, including much of her own party. In my opinion, she also went too negative against Obama and she comes off as being a shrill bitch. Her biggest liability is not her **** but her last name. I think a Clinton nomination is a win for McCain and I think McCain knows it.

Obama's biggest liability isn't his race, but the "I'm smarter than you and I know it" aura. I think he is the most hopeful of the candidates and I think the nation is ready to hope again. I also think it's telling that the best attacks the right can come up with are on his middle name and out of context quotes from his former pastor.

I never had a problem with McCain until he became a Bushie lapdog in '04, and now he doesn't even stutter when he says we may be in Iraq for another 100 years. Aside from that, I see no clear discernible political difference between him and Hillary. His advantage is that the longer the Democratic party takes to pick a candidate, the more momentum he can gain.

As for the choices at hand, I honestly yearn for the day that a person can say "I am an atheist/agnostic and I refuse to make my candidacy about my metaphysical beliefs or lack thereof" and remain a viable candidate in a national election.
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2008, 07:44:02 PM »

As for the choices at hand, I honestly yearn for the day that a person can say "I am an atheist/agnostic and I refuse to make my candidacy about my metaphysical beliefs or lack thereof" and remain a viable candidate in a national election.

Yearn on.   Wink

Your guy has commitment issues.   Devil
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2008, 08:00:35 PM »

Got to thinking about the one group less electable than ugly, pagan, ghey, black chicks.



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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2008, 08:05:38 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2008, 08:07:14 PM »

LOL

I thought that's where the notion of a soap box came from.
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