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What is this 'interest' concept of which you speak?
« on: April 24, 2008, 09:53:06 AM »

A few weeks ago my boy got pissed at me for taking away some privileges (grades related.)  He was up in his room sulking.  My office is attached to his room.  The next day I sit down at my desk and notice a couple of holes in the speaker covering of one of my satellites.  A little investigation revealed there was also a hole in the cone.  Didn't totally blow the speaker but at certain frequencies it was quite noticeable. 

Challenged, both of my kids denied doing it.  I knew it was the boy but I told them they were both confined to their rooms until one of them fessed up.  After about five minutes the boy came to me and admitted he poked the speaker with a pen.  He got to do his sister's chores that weekend and also caught a bollocking for losing control of his anger.

Then we get to speaker replacement.  Both my kids get some money from me every month.  They don't have to do anything for the money - it's all about teaching money management.  They're required to give 10% to God/charity and 10% goes to savings.  The rest is for them to spend as they see fit.  If they go to a show, out to eat, to a game, whatever with their friends or want to buy stuff for themselves they have to pay out of their own pocket.  If we do stuff as a family I pay.  If they run out we won't lend them cash or bail them out.  They just don't get to go.  We figure they're learning and it's working very well for us as a family.

So now he has to pay me back $28 for the speaker.  Learning opportunity thinks I.  Usury laws aside, here are the three options I gave him:

1)  $28 over one month (zero interest)
2)  $36 over two months ($8 interest)
3)  $45 over three months ($17 interest)

He chose #2 and it's paining him big time.   Devil
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 10:04:42 AM »




Nice UB!

We haven't gone the "allowance" route but I like your idea. My daughter has a checklist with chores listed. She puts a mark every time she does each job. Each mark is $0.25. Now last week she picked up dog poop in the yard and earned 10 marks so it is my discretion as to the worth of each activity.

Her big wow moment with money concerns cell phones. She wants one. She's not getting one. Once I sat her down and explained how much money it will cost her EVERY month I haven't heard another word. Not that I would let her spend her money on one at her age but that's a different discussion.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 10:05:23 AM »

the only* option should have been:

you broke it, you're buying me this to replace it
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 10:10:38 AM »

We haven't gone the "allowance" route but I like your idea.

Grin

To be clear, ours isn't allowance in the traditional sense.  They do have chores.  Those chores are theirs because they are Beatha family members and we all have responsibilities.  If they don't do their chores there are consequences but the holding back of the money is *never* a consequence.  The money, the chores, the behavior, the attitude and the grades are all distinct from one another and evaluated individually.

I swear by this approach.  It's golden. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 10:13:15 AM »



I swear by this approach.  It's golden. 

good, because your decelerating interest rate timeline isn't  Shocked Devil
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I swear by this approach.  It's golden. 

good, because your decelerating interest rate timeline isn't  Shocked Devil

He's in 7th grade algebra.  Compound interest is next year.   Wink

I went with the first divide by two and then by three numbers that fit my purpose.   Boxing
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2008, 10:28:52 AM »

 Grin
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2008, 10:35:05 AM »

We haven't gone the "allowance" route but I like your idea.

Grin

To be clear, ours isn't allowance in the traditional sense.  They do have chores.  Those chores are theirs because they are Beatha family members and we all have responsibilities.  If they don't do their chores there are consequences but the holding back of the money is *never* a consequence.  The money, the chores, the behavior, the attitude and the grades are all distinct from one another and evaluated individually.

I swear by this approach.  It's golden. 

I like this idea/approach.  Thumbs Up



Fuzz, agreed on the cell.  Maddie is nuts over one.  I used to think she would have to wait, or was still too young, but now with the sports, and stay over with friends, and security against the sickos out there..........I may just let her have it.  Possibly like a Firefly or Jitterbug typed deal.



the only* option should have been:

you broke it, you're buying me this to replace it

LOL  That's funny as hell.


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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2008, 10:37:55 AM »

How much do your kids get per month?  Shocked
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2008, 10:44:02 AM »

i'll take an allowance too, thanks.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2008, 10:49:12 AM »

How much do your kids get per month?  Shocked

$50 and $30 monthly.  They are 13 and 8 years old.  Leaves them with $40 and $24 respectively after 'deductions'.

Sounds like a lot but it's not.  Those of you with children those ages think about how often you put your hand in your pocket for "hey dad, I'm going to _______.  Can I have $____?" moments.  We don't do that.  Ever.  They really have to manage their money to make it through and they are often broke for half the month.

We also let them buy their own clothes.  They get a special budget twice a year separated into a school clothes amount and a regular clothes amount.  They're told they have to buy so many shirts, so many pants, so much underwear and socks, etc.  If the boy decides he wants one pair of Kr3w jeans instead of two pair of something reasonable, so be it.  If the girl wants to shop at Limited Too she's not gonna have a very big wardrobe.

[edit: We do retain disapproval authority on clothing purchases.  My son was ordered to return an inappropriate t-shirt last time around.]

Trust me, they make a TON of mistakes on all of this to include my daughter flat out losing $20.  But I'd rather them learn those lessons now than the first time they walk into a car dealership or get their first credit card.

BTW, 20 minutes ago my son walked in and asked if today is "pay day".  Grin  And it is.   Sad
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2008, 10:55:13 AM »

holy crap. $50 a month?
lol

i had to mow 5-6 yards (texas sized yards in texas weather) to make that
damn inflation and generous utah parents  Devil
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2008, 11:01:42 AM »

holy crap. $50 a month?
lol

i had to mow 5-6 yards (texas sized yards in texas weather) to make that
damn inflation and generous utah parents  Devil

Both ways uphill?   Cheesy

I know parents making a lot less than I do spending a lot more on their kids but they're just not tracking it.  Soft drinks, snacks, activities, eating out, music... the list goes on.
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Both ways uphill?   Cheesy


no, you usually had to mow them dangerous sidehill  way
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2008, 11:23:37 AM »

holy crap. $50 a month?
lol

i had to mow 5-6 yards (texas sized yards in texas weather) to make that
damn inflation and generous utah parents  Devil

Both ways uphill?   Cheesy

I know parents making a lot less than I do spending a lot more on their kids but they're just not tracking it.  Soft drinks, snacks, activities, eating out, music... the list goes on.

Yeah, that's probably what we spend.
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