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Superduper Tuesday
« on: February 05, 2008, 08:33:25 AM »

Anyone else going to the polls today?  Our primary is today so I'll be going.  I'm sure my vote for Obama won't prevent Billary from taking our state.  She is up in the polls here pretty big.  But we'll see, hoping for a surprise.  Fingers Crossed And I really hope our repubs don't go with Huckabee.  He is in a dead heat with McCain around here. 

Too bad we have closed primary election because it really seems the young voters that may be repub/independents lean heavily toward Obama. 
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Re: Superduper Tuesday
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2008, 08:38:24 AM »

There's something inherently wrong with our system. Some states are winner take all, other are apportioned by results.  In California, if you are an independent, you can vote in the Democratic Primary, but not the Republican.  Other states don't allow independents to vote in any primary.  So much for a "national" representation.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 08:43:41 AM »

We're a caucus state. I wish it was a primary.

With all the talk of disenfranchising voters the past 8 years I find it interesting that caucuses still exist.


http://www.startribune.co...l/president/15116751.html

DFL caucuses will start at 6:30 p.m. and GOP at 7 p.m. To find caucus locations:

Each party also will conduct presidential preference votes. DFL caucus-goers will be able to cast a secret ballot for a presidential candidate between 6:30 and 8 p.m. The GOP will conduct its vote during the first half-hour of its caucuses.



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Re: Superduper Tuesday
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 08:53:26 AM »

We're a semi-open primary state. If you're a registered Republican or unaffiliated you can vote in the Republican primary, but unaffiliated voters must register Republican at the polls in order to cast their ballots. They can return their status to unaffiliated after voting. If you're registered Democrat, Independent, or unaffiliated you can vote in the Democratic primary.

I'll be voting, but I'm definitely not a proponent of the system as it exists today. I'd like to see a national open primary in which an individual gets to vote for two candidates. The two candidates with the most primary votes, regardless of political affiliation, get to advance to the general election. I'd also favor losing the Electoral College system and going with a straight popular vote.
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Re: Superduper Tuesday
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 09:04:21 AM »

I think the primaries should be completely open as well.  I kind of like Spacey's idea.


And on the electoral college, I am now convinced it is utter BS.  People proclaim it helps the single voter be heard, and keeps all elections out of only the major cities.  But I think that is all crap.  My state will never send it's electoral votes to a democrat.  So any vote I make not for a repub isn't counted essentially.  At least the electoral votes shouldn't be winner take all.  If two go to a dem and 5 a repub then it should go to the electoral college that way.  But I'd prefer a complete popular vote.  Maybe even a redo popular vote going back in time to 2000.   Devil
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Re: Superduper Tuesday
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 09:15:52 AM »

Heck, they should just do away with the primary system altogether. Have all the candidates pair-up with their running mates from the get-go, and have a single, Chinese downhill-like, national election with all candidates pairs of all parties running simultaneously. This would save a lot of time and money, and nobody can bitch about certain candidates stealing votes from other candidates because everybody would be stealing votes from each other.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 09:22:32 AM »

or they could just throw then into the mix on  AG and see who's last standing
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 09:29:44 AM »

or they could just throw then into the mix on  AG and see who's last standing


That means Clinton wins.
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Re: Superduper Tuesday
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 09:36:35 AM »

Just got back from the polls.  To give you an idea of our uniformed voting populace, a woman walked in and said while seeing one desk for dem and one for repub, "I'm an independent."

They said ok sorry you don't have anything to vote for as this is party primary.  You must be in a party to vote.  The lady was obviously very confused to here this for the first time.   Scratches Head

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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 09:37:01 AM »

I just got back from voting.  No line when I got there, but 4 people in line as I left.  Paper ballots this time instead of electronic.

The big excitement there was one woman (an independent) had to get a new ballot because she wanted to vote Democrat but didn't realize that she needed to request a Democrat ballot.  As I left, I walked by a poll worker explaining to another dude how he'd have to register as a Republican to vote in that party in the next primary.


(On a personal level, the wife voted opposite of me for prez nomination, so we canceled out each others votes. Angry)
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Re: Superduper Tuesday
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2008, 09:52:10 AM »

LOL


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Re: Superduper Tuesday
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2008, 10:33:48 AM »

Did any other ballots still have Edwards?  I understand his withdrawal was fairly recent but I wonder how many people will still vote for him. 
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Re: Superduper Tuesday
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2008, 11:11:21 AM »

Did any other ballots still have Edwards?  I understand his withdrawal was fairly recent but I wonder how many people will still vote for him. 

We still had Edwards on our ballot.
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Re: Superduper Tuesday
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2008, 11:24:14 AM »

It's in the plans, but is dependent upon my dad getting home early enough.  Not having the conventional hours is a huge understatement.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2008, 11:36:00 AM »

Apparently, with nearly 8 hours left before polls close, Utah has already surpassed total voter turnout from the last presidential primary.  Shocked
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