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« on: January 10, 2008, 07:19:00 AM »

http://cbs.sportsline.com/golf/story/10567636
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2008, 07:25:04 AM »

""We are in an era now where we see hangman's nooses all over again."

Huh? Huh? Huh?

Somebody help a Utah boy out and tell me in what parts of the country are hangman's nooses in vogue.

edit:  Found it in the corresponding ESPN article which didn't cut half the story.

http://sports.espn.go.com...&source=ESPNHeadlines

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The use of a hangman's noose as a racist symbol has resurfaced recently, most notably in the 2006 case of the Jena Six when six black high school students in Louisiana were charged with beating a white student after nooses had been left in a tree under which the black students had asked school permission to sit.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2008, 09:06:55 AM »

I like Tilghman.  I don't think she should be fired.  I know my mouth moves faster than my brain sometimes.  We're all human.  But when you are an anchor for a nationally televised broadcast, you can not say (in reference to a black man) "lynch him in a back alley".
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2008, 11:44:58 AM »

This kind of *feces* really chaps my ass! I am not a racist by any means but what drives me nuts is what I hear every day at work. Where I work the population is probably 50% black, 20% Hispanic, 15% oriental and 15% Caucasian. I hear the how the black population at work talk to each other, what they call each other, what they say, etc... If I were to say anything like that I would be sued, beat up, and shot (not necessarily in that order). I have to talk like I am walking on pins an needles yet in the same conversation (that I am participating in) they are calling each other the N word like it's a nickname.

If these comments or words are so offensive they why the hell is it OK for them to say it!

I look at people at work by the personality they have not the color of their skin, yet I have to so I don't accidentally offend them by saying the very same thing they are.

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2008, 12:03:20 PM »

Is it this lunchroom?

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2008, 12:08:26 PM »

I don't agree with what Tilgham said. I think it's wrong. I think stuff like that is wrong no matter who says it or what your skin color is. If you want a politically correct world then the rules should be the same for everyone, none of this "it's OK if I say it but not if you say it" crap!
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2008, 12:27:08 PM »

Tilghman didn't use the N-word.  I don't know if she honestly just picked the word "lynch" to convey "dispose of" or if her subconscious delivered it to her because she had the image of a black man in her head.  Either way, I can't see it as equivalent to referencing him via "****".

But as it stands, black coworkers tossing around the word "****" in front of whites/Asians/others already is actionable -- hostile workplace and all that.  It's not like the users of that word get a free pass.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2008, 12:37:17 PM »

Your right she didn't use that word. But if she were to say the same thing about Phil M. it would be a non issue. I'm not saying Bryant Gumble would be able to get away with it ether but he might not take the flak that she is.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2008, 02:14:07 PM »

Well, the strongest likelihood that racist sentiment underlies the remark is when a white broadcaster says it in reference to a black athlete.  Of course there'd be less furor if she'd said it in reference to Mickelson, Goosen or Furyk.

You do have to wonder, though, why "lynching" popped into her head instead of any of the myriad other terms/metaphors she could have used.  It's not like "lynching" is all that popular a term in the modern vernacular.


But her best tactic at this point is to distract everyone by claiming that she meant "lynching" in the erotic asphyxiation sense.
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2008, 02:17:52 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2008, 02:19:18 PM »


You do have to wonder, though, why "lynching" popped into her head instead of any of the myriad other terms/metaphors she could have used.  It's not like "lynching" is all that popular a term in the modern vernacular.


Excellent point/talker.

And give a lot of weight, give that the term is never associated with a "back alley".

She may have meant mugged, accosted, sacked, and like you said, a myriad of other violent aggressive actions.....but she said "lynch".

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2008, 02:20:30 PM »


But her best tactic at this point is to distract everyone by claiming that she meant "lynching" in the erotic asphyxiation sense.

Will you let Michael Hutchence rest in peace.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2008, 02:21:50 PM »

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But her best tactic at this point is to distract everyone by claiming that she meant "lynching" in the erotic asphyxiation sense.

That and post pictures of herself in lingerie on myspace.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2008, 04:17:29 PM »

You do have to wonder, though, why "lynching" popped into her head instead of any of the myriad other terms/metaphors she could have used.  It's not like "lynching" is all that popular a term in the modern vernacular.

Tilghman probably doesn't/didn't understand that the term "lynch" pretty much means to "kill" by hanging. It doesn't mean to simply "bind with a rope", which is probably what she meant to say (i.e. the only way to slow down Tiger is to bind him up and toss him in a back alley so that he isn't able to play in a tournament). The only notable metaphorical use of that term that I can recall is when Clarence Thomas described the Anita Hill investigations as a "high-tech lynching". It was an appropriate metaphor in that case because he believed that the investigations were intended to "kill" his reputation and career.

I can see Tilghman's comment as being an honest mistake, but if you're in broadcasting, your only job is to speak and to speak well. If she got fired because of a mistake in what she said, then so be it.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2008, 04:28:40 PM »

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